episode 10 looks interesting… i hate to be have to wait

sup guy’s umm theres one more episode to go befor the years out, dec 15th, its called “earthlings welcome here” just letting the creator of this web site know, so he can add it..

excelent……..keep up ……..i still love summer glau….

To quote the Simpson’s comic book guy “Worst show ever!”

Talking about “Season 2 Episode 12 “Alpine Fields”

The episode starts off with a family returning home to find two strangers with shotguns in their home and does the father or mother say “please don’t hurt us!”, or we’ll do whatever you ask don’t hurt us”.

NO!

The father completely ignores the fact that two people with shotguns are in his home and what does he says, what does he say?…
He tells his daughter to “go to your room” Pathetic Indeed!

Then still completely ignoring the fact that two armed strangers who could still shoot him and his wife in the face WITH THEIR SHOTGUNS!, he say what?…
He tell his wife to “call the police” Unbelievable garbage!

Disgusting trash!

That was just in the first five minutes, and Sarah and Cameron just let the daughter do what? “go to her room“.

Sarah and Cameron armed with guns, there to protect this family, completely simple let the girl walk away and completely go out of sight to go wherever she chooses.

WORST! SHOE! EVER! (yes, shoe).

Nasty waste of my time! This episode was painful!

Ok, Lena and Summer still looked hot!

“worst episode ever!” Correct you are Pj88.
But as for the previous episode with Cameron and the Library with the doughnuts, that I thought was a great, fun, HOT, episode.

But thanks for the correction, “Alpine Fields…worst episode ever!”

I’m sorry but isn’t there enough story going on in this show right now? I loved the first series and assured so many friends it wasn’t the failure many critics said it was gonna be…

Losing faith now though which is maybe down to the writers. I’m at the point where I’m losing interest about a few of the hundred questions this show asks.

For example - Cameron loves John
Cameron has a Job
Jesse is a psycho
what the hell is Weaver upto
how was the terminator’s skin on its face replaced?
Why was Reily sent back

The list goes on & on. And now we have Kyle Reese back why?? And since when do Terminator fans desire the possiblity of UFOS?!?!

This show has forgotten what it’s fans want to see I think. Please win me back TSCC!

i have to agree with the two previus statmets, i thought it was just me who was thinking ” this is getting stale”, but really who ever was involved in the writing of the pased 3 epsodes my need to be terminated them selves. i think they need to watch the first seasion and the 3 movies again to get the terminator storyline back into play, not these random tangents that leave questions unanswered ,soon the question im gonna b asking is why am i watching this. but i wanna keep watching thats the thing ,its turning into a bad accident that u cant look away from.

Seriously, when is this dismal program going to be terminated?

jeaah, me does woerried two xD

although, on second thought, any upstanding fan of this show might be well advised to direct his wrath at fox’s moving the show to fridays or at the writers scrwing up four of the last five episodes instead at the ortographic shortcomings of people who aren’t native speakers :p

Due credit to “self made man” though - that one managed to get my hopes back up - albeit for one week only …..

great.. good work ……keep up……. I love summer

i have to agree with u leah, most people also have a grammar issue.., anyway i glad that fox hasn’t renewed a new season, even if its only rumoured , because something like the terminator can start to drag n get boring, there’s only so much that can b covered in a series. coz soon it will b like “oh g there trying to kill john connor again”, n guess what he dosen’t die. SHOCK!!., im not taking anything away from the show i love it, i just hope the ending is awsome n not crap, 2 things they could lead it into the 3rd movie or end with a judgment day.

yeah for sho’, sorry that statment probly sounded a bit negative, thats not what i was implying. I know all that still needs to happen with sarah. im not sayin’ that they have run out of ideas for the shows direction, just that for a complete new season it could get repetitive. sorter like here we go again…. ‘damn it’, once again that sounds negative, its hard to wite an opinion on these things with out people taking it the wrong way. thows r all valid points u made by the way. oh haha n yeah i dont find the show boring i live it to death. just hope it comes home strong.

why the math book sad?
because it has a problem!

The jury is still out but there is still too much time wasted in the last hour. Yeah there is little mystery/ surprised but no OMG (oh my goshes) like LOST and 24 where each hour is sizzling ,crackling and jammed with so much suspense and surprises you can’t wait until the next episode. That was how this series was in the first year and part of the 2nd year (before it lost its way).
Reese come on looks like a boy. The writers etc could not get someone older?
Skynet is trying to evolve but it seems like the way the show is portraying it - it is getting worse for the ultimate battle and not trying to stave off the skynet perfect storm.
Connor’s teenage angst and whatever is quite boring.
The 2nd half of that hour to see if Sarah would not die because of the bullet and all the stuff with the femaile doctor. That seemed like a lot of wasted time.
I don’t know why the last cybor destroyed the factory? Was is a precursor of something for skynet and muscling into Jon Henry’s territory?

I Hop to apeer in T4 Arni ! TSCC it’s good i like but the special efects….

I also think maybe the Producer and writers should have watched the 1st, 2nd and 3rd movie and realize that the movies do have a little action in them. A chase or two, at least a couple of chases for sure, right?

I really really think the movies had a little bit of action in them (sarcasm), at least 3 minutes for sure, may be even five minutes! OR 60 or 70!!!
FOLLOWED BY A COUPLE OF CHASES!!
AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DAMN CRAZY STUFF CALLED ACTION!!!!

But hey we all know what fanboys and fangirls really love? We love hospital bed talk.
We can’t get enough of funeral vigils, they are awesome! Lunch time conversation about the dead beats any cyborg battles any day! Give me driving in traffic conversations with Brian Austin Green over Brian Austin Green with a gun running through devastated LA any day.

Hey lets have some conversations about plaid shirts and ties.

How about some little kids and how daddy reads stories better than mom…suicide teenage angst with some more hospital bed time banter…did I mention funeral talk and pregnant chicks in hospital beds.

The show should start a campaign called Dames of Deception with Cameron from TSCC and Echo from Dollhouse have a crazy commercial about how much action there will be on Friday nights. Then have two greats episodes with Cameron having a conversation in a hospital waiting room in one episode and then in the next episode have Cameron having a conversation at a funeral, yeah Action packed conversations!
This could save the show!

In closing can I write…Douche Bags!!…ok that was mean. Sweet Douche Bags!!

Tonight, that was a great episode of diagnosis murder, I mean Terminator the Sarah Connor chronicles.

“Some Must Watch, While Some Must Sleep”

I was joking when I said these sweet douches (producers/writers) should watch the 3 Terminator movies, but damn!
Obviously they never saw Terminator 2 Judgment day.

Why would a woman who was once drugged, molested, sexually abused many many times in hospital by orderlies and guards check herself back into a hospital where she could be drugged, sexually abused, and molested many many times once again.

SHE WOULDN’T!!

Damn Sad!

I feel Nasty, Dirty, Joshie! Like a Sweet Ripe Josh!

But Lena and Summer still looked hot, I want some pancakes.

Doesn’t matter.

Waste of time, any fan knows she wouldn’t do it!

So it’s a waste of time or a very badly written episode. The show was about to get canceled and this is the best you can do?

So it could or could not be a dream and we watch the stupid security guard again and do they show her kill him, no! so if by the chance of a miracle this show get a 3rd season we can see another useless episode of someone who was suppose to be dead comeback for a pointless reason.

I’ll pass on watching it again and watch dollhouse, but thanks for the suggestion.
Ok I take that back, I’m sure its far worst then I thought so I will watch it again and nodoubt as the writers of this so would write “I’ll return soon!”

That was sarcasm “I’ll be back”

Well it seems like the show is trying to do its best to kill itself off. The last show was boring and pathetic. Who cares whether Sarah can’t sleep at all. Where is the action? The sizzle? any good plot????? I am also thinking of not watching any more . I have watched since episode 1 but this is ridiculous . What a waste of time and I don’t have time to waste. Terminate this show

Well, I saw the 2 chapters of the season 2 restart and guys, I feel a little dissapointed. specially with chapter 16, ‘coz I DON’T UNDERSTAND A S**T WHAT’S THE MEANING OF SARAH’S INSOMNIA!!!!
I don’t understand ‘coz what is real for sarah (and for us, the fans) or what is a dream. the clinic where sarah is carrying a insomnia treatment and what sarah saw (that behind this was just a Skynet workcamp??????) the doctor was a machine too? what about winston? he was not really dead? what about the factories behind…? and the drone in chapter 15? Is a lot of questions… doesn’t makes any sense for me anyways… maybe the writers once again just making filling episodes.
John said “every logical step takes us to the most stranges places”

Regards from chile!!

absolutely man i really hope they do read some of these comments they might actually find out what the fans like n not what they want.

Go Facebook and join Terminator Salvation Group

wen duds season 2 coming out on D.V.D

Why in G-ds name would anyone want to get season #2 and pay to watch this garbage on DVD. Why not watch something good that has plot, action, good characters and writers that know what they are doing.
You are right on aaron with everything.I am bored to death with Sarah ( supposedly this main character has had depression bouts and I guess she is using that for foder in the episodes. John does not look like a leader - more like a winey brat. The soldier - John’s uncle is real good but the writer’s don’t give him anything to work with.
What is all the bull about the robots and destroying that manufactured place in Mexico?
Where are the action scenes from the future?
Who cares about a season finale big shoot out?
The writers have shot themselves in the foot so often this season there should be nothing left to work and gosh it shows.
Most shows want us to come back after the finale. The writers are driving us away for sure!!!!

riley noob u öldün beaaa en sonunda.. ja ajaja toprağın bol olsun annoying person…

Too much “?” in the last post
I agree with what you wrote West…but I think that people who are disappointed by the show wanted to see Skynet failing to be the “God of the future”. They wanted to see that IS possible to stop Skynet NOW and prevent the war, not fighting and distroing Skynet in the future. Otherwise where’s the need to modify the timeline if they don’t want to tell a different story from “the judgment day is unavoidable” ? ™ Only to make money? (could be…but I don’t think so)
Only my opinion…of course

Why mess around with the original storyline?

This is supposed to be dark and bloody and voilent at times. Terminator 1, and 2 were the originals, and they never showed hope so they’re… bang on? …

Keep it dark, don’t make a “happy version” as it fits in with T4 too, as why would you want contradicting moods from such a shared admiration for the James Cameron originals.*

Keep the fan base tight and you’ve got yourself a money maker… ; )

Well said nywahi, I agree…

Its all down to paradox’s, but that hasn’t been over glorified or raved about yet..,

You have to keep to the darkness of the Terminator storyline that was first created. It isn’t supposed to be happy, it isn’t supposed to be hopeful.

This message board DOESN’T REFLECT the majority of opinions of TSCC fans, and we really appreciate the focus and skill of the writing invovled. I believe you have stayed as close to the story line as to not compromise the feel of the Terminator originals, whilst not selling out. I hope this series continues on for a 3rd Season.

and about the Riley’s death… seems unncecesarly

Comejo your not getting the point and making very little gramatical sense.

This is an ALTERNATIVE storyline to the Terminator 3 film. So in this series, T3 will never happen in the future. T3 was GOD AWFUL, why on earth we any real fan want that mess of a movie tarnishing the Originals? It was an utter shambles of a movie from SCRIPT, TO CASTING, TO SPECIAL EFFECTS, TO LAUGHS, EEEVERYTHING.

The whole point of the series is OBVIOUS?! Why are you stressing your brain out unecessarily watching this show if you can’t tell by now? The clue is in the shows title. The series will progress as far as Sarah Connor is alive until her eventual inevitable demise from cancer. The show chronicles the life of Sarah Connor in her effort to secure and teach her son John everything he needs to become a leader, whilst safe guarding his safety.

Riley needed to die. She was supposed to die. She died. The storyline had expired, it was sewed up nicely.

Aaron - Cromartie’s body is JOHN HENRY. It is the same chassis that was hunting John from the very beginning, episode 101 but it was originally destroyed in the shoot out at the church in New Mexico. It was dug up/stollen by Emmison.

How are they supposed to get hold of the flying machine? If anything it only confirms the doom and gloom that they all don’t wanna believe in that the future and judgement day is inevitable. The technology is already around in small number in the present so…

The “TURK” was explained in the series that it was probably only a piece of the whole computer system that will make the AI that will evolve into Skynet. “The TURK” was only a raid array anyways, it was software, not hardware. Is was taken after Andy Goodman lost that chess match that was rigged by his partner. The airforce is believed to have taken it.

You know everyone seems to forget the crunch point about this series. So I will put it in caps:

HOW CAN THE WRITERS SEW UP THIS SERIES AND DECIDE THE MOOD OF THE DIRECTING IN EACH EPISODE WHEN THEY DO NOT KNOW THE FUTURE OF THE SERIES? THE SERIES HAS HAD FALLING AND RISING VIEWING FIGURES WITH A CREDIBLE SCARE TO HAVING IT CUT ALTOGETHER. EVERYONE IN THE PRODUCTION OF TSCC HAS THERE REPUTATION ON THE LINES IN THIS PRODUCTION, SO THEY ARE FORCED TO EITHER

A) GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANT QUICKLY AND RUSH IT ALL

B) CONTINUE ALONG THE ORIGINAL PLAN, STAY TRUE TO THE STORY THEY HAVE

Both have there risks.

A) risks making massive mess of it that ruins all they’ve done good.

B) risks allowing the show to be cancelled pending on the sucess of T4 and show being forgotton about.

Derek and Jesse probably will die.

Infact I think Jesse will probably die this series with Derek shooting her dead.

Derek will survive this series for future episodes. In terms of marketting? They need the eye candy in Cameron and Sarah, and then for the women there’s John and Derek. Jesse’s character is 100% expendable, and thats the way the writers have written her in on purpose. She’s gonna die.

People really should forget Terminator 3 though, as it was a god awful film that made a mockery of James Camerons creation. I mean the horrible cliches that it wrote into the Terminator franchise of him getting married, and his Misses sending back Arnie in T3 was just so mouldy, its like cliche 101 of time travel.

Whats wrong with John Connor just being alone and basically hell bent mad, cronically depressed on crushing skynet? Too bleak? Of course not!

No no, the T3 writers want a good “ol’ American lifestyle” for John, with Mrs John Connor and kids on there stupid way too. They’re so gonna write in Mrs Connor either pregnant, or becoming pregnant by T5…. GARANTEED

Season finale mate… patience

They also tend to shoot themselves in the foot too by over advertising a series, which therefore makes it EXTREMELY confusing to figure out which day they are advertising the NEW episodes, and what are just the repeats. Especially when they change the new shows dates from a Saturday to a Friday… Well done FOX - morons. Its so annoying, advertisers don’t know sh*t.

West what are you talking about . Were you really serious in saying “we really appreciate the focus and skill of the writing invovled. ” What a pathetic joke. The last two episodes have bee much better especially the edgy stuff going on going back and forth between the submarine stuff, the lost little girl etc etc. It was a little difficult to tell but apparently there was an attempt somehow on the sub for the machines to broker a deal with the humans. Before the sub exploded, the robot said “tell John Connor NO”. That either means a brokered deal was called off for some reason or “NO” meant that the robots would continue their battle with skynet and against the humans. Jesse ran and apparently was not shot so she lives. No sure why. Someone dies next week so we shall see.

Its not a matter of giving the fans what they want. It is making sense of what is going on and keeping the viewers on the edge of your seats wondering how things are piecing together. LOST done that so well . SCCT may be getting their mojo back.

If this last episode was an indication of better things to come, as many hope, then we expect a better “yarn” ahead instead of things unraveling as they have done the past few espisodes.

Cameron told already that the question to the answer “No” is : Would you join us?
Maybe there is something like a rebel fraction inside the Skynet Army.

The last two episodes were great. I hope that they show the future in a higher frequenz now.

The first time I watched the ending of this weeks episode, I assumed Jesse lived. That Derek couldnt shoot her, the look on his face and that we didnt see her fall. Then the scene with John, when John asked Derek if he killed her. Derek said “John Connor let her go”. I took Derek’s comment to mean that since John let her go, Derek was going to be a good soldier and follow John’s wishes.

The second time I watched the ending. Derek’s gun clicked when he pulled the trigger as if the gun was going to fire. Then I thought about what Derek said to John about “John Connor let her go”. What Derek could have meant is like what he said to Jesse that John let her go, but that Derek is not John. And Derek can’t let her go.

So I am not sure anymore if Jesse lived.

Well I’ satisified !!!

Granted, among the standalones were some good, some not so good, but overall - ok. I’m quite happy they took the time for that Sarah three part thing. I mean obviously she can’t hold her own against Cameron when it comes to the action sequences. Which is sad, because Hadey is a good an actor as Glau, and a cast as well chosen. So getting back to those psychogram style episodes that deal with her dealing with things was definetly the right choice.

Now as for the Sub, and the two parter it came up in. That was just great. !! Looking forward to the finale. And I agree derek certainly geeked her ^^. he’s not john.

Summary: when season 2 was some episodes into the first half, the pressure on writers and the whole team was up - big time. Fox slaped them in the face with moving the time slot (although I agree that it is open to interpretation whether they are just morons , ratings were dropping, Fans were bitching around (i was) about getting back to the roots, or killing this or that support character, or getting more actions since the story was dead anyway - things seemed to just spin away in so many little directions at once - and now look what they’ve done, they’ve kept things together.

I did not believe that season three might come - but who knows - things look a loooot better now.

so, as i said, I’m quite happy with what they’ve done so far considering the circumstances

I hope they keep it up

Lol, Eric what are you talking about? You don’t know anything about writing do you?

I don’t want to be left with a stupid cliched cliffhanger at the end of every episode, I don’t want to be on the edge of me seat 24/7.

WHY? BECAUSE IT IS WRONG FOLLOWING THE STORYLINE AND JAMES CAMERON ORGINALS!!!

John will NEVER die, Sarah will die from CANCER, Derek is seperate, Cameron is the key. She’s different from the Terminators, she can feel, she can grasp emotion, she has a desire and limited ability to feel emotions. Nobody can die in this series other than Derek and Cameron. GET THAT IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING. TSCC is always “together” in direction the end = SARAH DEAD FROM CANCER. Somethings can “be” a mystery, Lost has LOADS of plot holes that are just bottomless pits of writers gaffs.

Lost… direction? They introduced the theory of time travel in series 3 was it? So you have magic - smoke monster, time travel, devine intervention - John Locke not dying from a stab wound from Ben, ghosts - Echo’s brother, and a “higher cause” that justifies everything, all in one story?

What next? Aliens?

Would Aliens explain it for you Eric? Aliens? Sounds good huh? That’ll keep the suspense?

Jesse dead or alive? Irrelevant really, she is dead to the storyline. She is either dead from Dereks gun - very very probable, OR she will come back to sacrifice herself at the finale.

The Terminator books wrote about Skynet producing a limited number of T1000’s who were completely autonomous in there thinking and seperate from Skynet. They produced them in limited numbers due to resources, and the fact they couldn’t know for certain what they COULD do. A rebel faction amongst skynet would be fitting, and plausible especially if led by a T1000.

No!!!?

It’s about MUCH MUCH more than just “protecting John Connor” Can’t you see that? It’s about trying to stop judgment day, whether there efforts are in vain or not. Its about learning as much about Skynet as possible to help them win the war later on, its about turning John into the leader that he has to become to win the war and give him the skills to insure his own survival, its about learning how Skynet ticks, its about learning how the Terminators are built and understanding their capabilities. If it wasn’t, then it would just be one episode after another on a road trip fleeing from Terminators?

This is not suppost to be the one dimensional remake of the movies strung out over an entire series. YOU, have completely missed the point in the series if you believe that.

It’s about John told through Sarah’s recall. So its Sarah’s account, Sarah’s narration, Sarah’s views and leadership, and Sarah’s memories.

Derek waited and did not shoot Jesse and you see her talking to someone so she is still around but for what? The last two episodes have been much better but in no way is it on part with last year (and being the best show on the air). Sarah’s lover dies in shoot out which is too bad but he did it so John could live and escape in the boat. The mystery is still out is what are they mining the Cyborg in the underground lab (forgot). The cop meets up with Sarah this week so that should be interesting. If the new movie is coming out soon , doesn’t that mean they have end this show?

I hate that they killed Derek, but they messed up on his headstone. The headstone said 2009. Derek, Cameron, John and Sarah jumped to 2007. When John first met Riley and the code to answer the phone was to give the month and day and the second person gives the year….they were giving dates in late 2007. So if you add the time on to that point then the show should have been in early 2008. They made a boo boo and put a headstone date of our acutal year and not the one the show is suppose to be in.

Nywah
You have sharp eyes congrats. if they came in 2007 is would be easy to have the sequence of episodes go to 2009 but I doubt it. It seems a little strange that they killed off Derek with little fanfare. I really liked him. In a way, I felt that he was the only character with a real good personality. I don’t really understand why they took the little girl. Maybe it was a way to get them to meet the “mother”. She in a way seems now to be looking for Sarah. So it does not make much sense as she can destroy sarah and john quite easily. But since John knows something is now going on with the robot (the little girl told him) then how their meeting with the mother and how , you guess is as good as mine. Well there is one episode left and I am not sure if they are going to tie things up or wind it to the movie Salvation or not. Supposedly the cop knows what he is doing but I am not sure why the robot did not detect that the cop was fooling with him and new more sooner by himself and did not tell the “mother ” sooner.

John Henry must live for Season3

Derek Must die - Nooooooo He was one of the best actors in there, totally believeable.

Finally a meeting between Catherine Weaver + Sarah Connor hope its another tense cliffhanger.

Also was thinking if the producers wanted to have the little girl from S1E9 What he beheld - who is held by Derek when they shot the shady business man in the alley to protect John. If only that could have been little Savanah - they only find out later and the reason she is in Dr Huberts office is the trauma she went through? bla bla bla
Would have nicely rounded off that storyline.

Also we may never find out what happened to Derek / Cameron in the basement in the future torture scence. Hope they bring back Dereks role for short periods even for a future scenes with Cameron - Thats still a possbility.

They took the girl because they could hardly leave her on her own, in a house with 2 corpes and a Terminator about to get them (after he finished rolling down the mountain.)

I reckon the 2009 tomb stone was marked ‘09 to mark the end of the series.

They killed off Derek because they’re sewing this series up. If we are to believe what that annoying blogger told us here with one of the women dying in this series, then it’ll have to be Cameron, so Sarah can die from her cancer off screen in the story to stick with her fate.

It was good death though.

This is such a premature ending for such a quality series. I’m so pissed off at FOX, they wouldn’t know quality if they caught it in bed nailing there mom.

I can only say that the series of excellent and the watch regularly.
I think that Fox should invest money in the further development of the series, however, because if you’ll live TV right from our viewers … so TSCC must go further.
Last episodes of this season will bring the outcome because you’ll wait (I hope) the new extensions.
Of course I would like to set-actors remain in the same composition (especially Cameron) but that in episode 21 killed Derek this is now changing.
So much of me … the culmination of all that we will soon come T4 in movie theaters … that we can give final answers to and how you won.

Hello to all the resistance fighters from Croatia

That is hilarious but true “”moody bitch” ” really says it all. I just want to see them wrap this up tonight because I am basicly bored with what is going on . Wrap it up and then let’s get it going where the series should be- the future

There has to be a 3rd season

they left off with a huge cliffhanger

I wanna (like all of you TSCC fans) a third season. to see what happens like sarge said. about sarah connor, the death of cancer (could be painfully) or to be killed by a terminator.

How will I live without cameron?

I do not know if I am slow or anything, but how did the last episode turn out???

I have watched it something like ten times, but I still cannot figure the whole ending twist out fully!
Please help me to fill out the storyline.

Looking forward to a third season!

one thing to remember.. john was in prison/ work camp with derek. so either the timeline has been changed or he’s only gone forward a couple of years to post j-day, trouble is kyle and derek were barely teenagers when we saw them mid season 2 so they shouldn’t be much over 20 if john is know just post j-day. therefore catherine weaver must have taken him further forward and in doing so appears to have stopped him from becoming the leader of the resistance as we know it.
i think now he will become that leader by bringing the metal resistance and the human resistance together before ending up back in the past to find his mother. she’ll be buried with kyle.

the unexpected twist has left many doors open for future plot twists but also potential paradoxes, john knows derek and kyle’s his father but he has to become leader of the resistance otherwise skynet won’t send arnie back to kill sarah or robert patrick’s t1000 to kill john etc.

i may have been right after all, it’s the end of the sarah connor chronicles and the start of th john connor chronicles.

I agree, Fox CAN’T END IT HERE.

That was an AWESOME ending? I couldn’t be happier, that was so trippy?

I think John jumped further in time that a few years post J day, I think more like 10 years, so Derek could age. Then again, if its in an alternative time reality, it could be 20 years if John Connor isn’t in it?

It makes sense that they’re jumping into an alternative future, as that way John can become the leader and learn all the skills in “nul” time, where he can age and learn all he wants to go back in time and live through Judgement day.

Yup, I think it is the end of the Sarah Connor Chronicles, and the start of the John Connor Chronicles.

I think its awesome they’ve got a T1000 leading the robot resistance against skynet. I liked the way Cameron went out too, it kinda gives the robot resistance the back bone of good, as Cameron we can say, loves John, so won’t intentionally hurt him.

It also brings together the whole Alison and Cameron storyline too, as that there (seen with the dog NOT BARKING) was Alison.

It makes sense that the Robot resistance probably modelled itself on Alison through there knowledge that John has a raging hard on going for Alison, and hence Cameron was created.

They got a hell of a lot of paradoxes going on now, but from the way they’ve confidently set this all up, I reckon the writers know exactly what they’re doing.

P.S

Yeah it was abit strange Cameron didn’t go through the time bubble, especially as the terminator skull went through (a propper writers gaff) and a little silly why the T1000 couldn’t make herself up clothes, but hey ho, I can say bollocks to all that when the storyline is that damn good.

So to all you haters out there wanting “more action” and “less sarah” and more about John Connor, here we now have the PERFECT SETUP

GET BEHIND TSCC SO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT WE NOW DESERVE TO SEE, THE JOHN CONNOR CHRONICLES!!!!

excellent the last episode just excellent…
i cant wait for season 3..

The series has gotten better and better -looks like they are doing the same thing they did
to Jericho . Does anybody know what the background music is that played just before
Derek killed Jessie?

oops, missing part after “or, what”:
s j west proposed: they jumped in an alternative future. But how does this alternative future evolves? I mean, you can’t just create one by setting some parameters of the turk. It can only exist if there is a different premise in the past.

The time-line created by his jumping several years into the future, what date we haven’t been given, has created an alternate time-line. This time-line would not necessarily be temporary. If John returns to present day, from that future he has entered, then that time-line could continue with either humans or SkyNet winning. The main thing that needs to be is: that John Connor is present to lead the resistance when SkyNet comes online, and that he has the knowledge and experience to be such a threat to SkyNet that it develops time travel technology to try and erase his existence. With time-travel being a part of this series, it has the potential of getting bogged down in alternative time-lines. The producers have already said that the tv-series exists in an alternative time-line to T3. I have read online that the producers intend to bring John back to present day midway through the next season, which we yet don’t know if it will be made. However, this plot twist will allow John to gain the experience and knowledge he will need to be the threat to SkyNet. If he remains in the future, as would have to be surmised if season 3 isn’t produced, then it will also fit in with established story as he will have the knowledge and experienced gained from working with and fighting against Terminators and SkyNet in present day. That knowledge would be a boon to the resistance. We just have to wait and see. If season 3 is made, then we get to see a lot of our questions get answered. I hope it will be. If not then I hope for a couple of annual tv movies to tie things together and pick up loose ends while setting in motion the events that will culminate in the movies.

The sooner,the better!

Eric,
Derek and the others in the future don’t know who John Connor is, because he wasn’t there to be known. He jumped several years into the future, to a point after Sky Net took over. Because he wasn’t there in those intervening years, nobody knows who he is. It will be necessary for him to gain their trust, stay alive, and become the leader he is meant to be, or just hang in there until he and the resistance can gain control of Sky Nets time travel technology so he can be sent back to his own time and allow the time-line to flow naturally. By jumping forward in time he has created an alternative time-line in which he wasn’t present to lead the resistance. His only choice is to join the resistance as is until he accomplishes one of the two goals mentioned above. Either way he is destined to become the leader of the resistance. As is not so good. If he can get back to his own time, and let that time-line evolve properly, then great.

ERIC your still spreading your misguided words of tarnish over something that is clearly still way above your understanding to fully appreciate.

Your entire last reply just shows how little you understand about the story?

Hence how the1russter can answer every single query of yours, along with everyone else.

“More action” you say? Well for every fan that has even written on this page, I hope the writers keep displeasing your taste and baffling your understanding as everyone else on this page really appreciates TSCC, so if you don’t like the TSCC, go!

John Henry has the chip that used to be Cameron’s. But he may not be a hybrid of the two. As you recall the computer system that John Henry was hooked up to was flashing a message from Cameron. It is quite possible that the matrix that formed Cameron’s personality and knowledge was swapped with the matrix on the computer system containing John Henry’s. I imagine all that was done was the chip from Cameron was placed in the empty socket in John Henry’s head; Cameron’s programming matrix was downloaded into the computer; and John Henry’s matrix uploaded into the chip, making John Henry independent of the computer system. Cameron’s only means of communicating was displaying a text message on the computer monitor, as she is now operating on the computer. John Henry’s role as I gather was to learn morality and humanity and then use that information to somehow modify SkyNet so it isn’t the threat it will become. It would be necessary for him to become independent of the computer system. Hence the question to Cameron, “Will you join us?” We all know she had a task other than just protecting John Connor. In “Self Made Man” we learned she was seeking other Terminators. It is quite possible in the whole scheme of things, her other task was to relinquish her chip to John Henry without knowing who we would be until she heard the question. Her role then changed from protecting John Connor to providing the chip and independence to John Henry so he could do his task; and with the physical state she was in after rescuing Sarah, it was the only thing she could do.

it makes u wonder if she was only sent back to protect john, or if she had her own mission on the side as well. coz if she was programed to protect him in the passed then she abandoned that mission in that ep. or her job was done so she used a fully intact body one that wasnt damaged to move into the future or where ever she whent. but unless there’s a 3rd we wont really know here true mission.

The1Russter - that makes lots of sense. Thanks for informing me. That makes things a little clearer. Today, USAtoday lists TSCC as being on the terminated list.

so its semi - official TSCC is terminated.
Not be back.
J-Day for TSCC.
and if you want to really tick the die hard fans - Hastla Vista Baby.

Wondering when the S03 will come, can’t wait

Well I wonder if Fox are being so niave as to only take into consideration the ratings taken in America, as over here in the UK, TSCC is advertised on our freeview menu page, so everyone sees it who has digital TV.

They should sell the broadcasting rights to other networks to show over the Summer during T4’s cinema airing and hype, and keep the show on for a 3rd season. By September this year, the Terminator fans will be buzzing from the news of T5.

This is one gamble FOX should definitely stick with.

what if in the future..the cameron that was real before she was replicated into machine is the one that is stroking the dog..what if thats whats meant to be that the person cameron really was before is who john is supposed to be with and that was the agenda that cameron had to send john to the future so that the real cameron and john could be together…ey?

Yes most likely though I think that is a posibility as there is def something going on with John and Cameron and hey theres got to be something to keep us girls happy!! in the plot isnt there..but I was thinking back to the episode where Cameron looses her memory and then re remembers who she was in her human past and I think that the cameron in the last episode stroking the dog is her as a real person..and the look on Johns face…because dogs dont like terminators do they…anyway..its all good fun but I hope Fox does do a series 3…

I have been watching the recordings I made of the show. It is good watching the episodes back-to-back like one big 30 hour movie. Haven’t finished yet. Still have the last ten episodes of season 2 to go. It is such a good series. Watching them again I have picked up on little details that got overlooked in the first viewing that makes more sense now that we have seen the season finale. This series is so good. The stories have more depth and better character development than you can get in a movie. And like Tina, I agree we don’t need any more of this reality TV. Give us a third season FOX!!!

I think it has been quite well established that the show is gone. Unfortunately so. It was one of the few shows in quite a few years that got me interested. Unfortunately it did not involve ‘real people doing stupid or interesting things in front of camera’ so it obviously got cancelled. Propably is going to be replaced by a show titled ‘America’s best candle stick maker’, which stars some has been billionare trying to recruit a CEO for his candlestick business.

en mexico keremos tercera temporada de ttscc please ayundenos ustedes aya en EUA

please 3 season pleaseeeee es beatifull serieee

I found me very interested in this serie, it have all the action from a blockbuster movie in a half time of it, the perfomances of the actors are just awesome… but, the end of this second season, didn’t convince me at all… in the first season, the end was so much better with that scene on the swinming pool , but in this second season, I used to look for days. weeks, some of the episode 23… :S, what a desilution…

I kind of like the peace and solitude with this season being finally over. Some highs but long drawn out, too drawn out lows, things not making sense and more. The last episode keeps us hanging for a purpose. I don’t think that the writers of the TV show will do anything to complete the movie that is coming out (for next year). II am just looking forward to seeing the movie when it comes out in a few weeks. I am not looking forward to season 3 at all unless it is much, much, much better then this year. Lousy writing is lousy writing and the TV writers still have a way to go. Possibly they have left things hanging to see what to do next if the series is renewed (which at this point I doubt). On to the movie. Deal with it. I hope it is good (small bites look great).