Upcoming TSCC Spoilers, Ep 2.21 Adam Raised a Cain Promos
Posted in Sarah Connor Chronicles Promo Images, Sarah Connor Chronicles TV Show News on 26-03-2009
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Entertainment Weekly has a couple of POTENTIAL SPOILERS from the remaining three episodes of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Yes, that means you should avoid this post if you don’t want to know. Also, we have a couple of images from the episode “Adam Raised a Cain”, the penultimate episode of TSCC’s Season 2. More after the jump.
The potential spoilers from EW’s Michael Ausiello:
I’m hearing rumblings that a major male character will be killed in the season (series?) finale. Also, one of the women in John’s life will leave him. Another will betray him.
I don’t think they’ll kill off either Derek or Ellison, and of course we know John is out of the question. So it has to be poor Charlie, who returns in Friday’s episode, “To the Lighthouse”. As for the second part of the spoiler, well, isn’t there just two women left in John’s life right now?
Meanwhile, two promo images from the 2.21 episode “Adam Raised a Cain”:
When John attempts to rescue Skynet’s latest target he finds himself closing in on Weaver, but at what cost? Game plans change, causing Sarah and Ellison to reunite. Meanwhile, Weaver learns Ellison’s secrets.
Not much of a spoiler!
Hopefully Cameron Doesn’t Leave, Its probably Weaver
does sarah leaving john mean that she dies
I don’t think Cameron will leave shes one of the reasons people watch the show! Plus sarah connor is meant to die but i dont think she will leave either because if say they kill her off what would be the point of the show being called sarah connor chronicles? I think its going to be weaver as well but saying that I did read in an article that Shirley Manson said that if there is going to be a season 3 she will be returning? Personally i think Cameron will betray him (somehow she has a lot of secrets to be fair) and I think sarah will leave him because she will worry about letting him down if (from what this weeks preview shows us) she has cancer like she might get stage freight or something but I reckon she will come back, whoever leaves I dont think it will be permanent if there is a sesaon 3
I’m sure that Sarah dies but I’m Very sure you can’t die from Cancer within the couple days of diagnoses(so i’ve heard). [John] has to let go of his mother. Cameron is there to take care of him, as programmed too
i have this funny feeling as i said before that cameron will kill herself to save john , i dont know how as she cant self terminate/?????????????????
Yes, Cameron cannot self terminate . . . directly. However, Cameron can “self terminate” by fighting to the “death” to save John. In other words, saving John has a higher priority than saving herself.
Wow u guys are dumb… The person who leaves him is Riley obviously and the person who betrays is either Sarah or cameron and it’s most likely cameron, that should have been fairly obvious
woah craig your really dumb rileys already dead!
why would she leave him in the last episode when shes not even in it?
I would of thought that should have been fairly obvious
The betrayal/abandonment issue is not so clear. One possible scenario:
1) Sarah betrays John by attempting to use the “watch” Cameron gave John to destroy Cameron,
2) Cameron “abandons” John (remaining nearby) because
a) she is concerned she might have to kill Sarah or
b) Sarah might find a way to destroy her
good ideas mike ?
It says a “woman” will betray John… but Cameron is a machine, an “it”, as Sarah said it to John an episode or two ago… lol… At least we got the male character dead >>> Charlie.
It won’t be Sarah, otherwise they would have to change the name from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, no? I don’t think it will be Cameron because a ton of fans actually love her character, though if she continues to move into haywire-ville, it might be a natural evolution to the series.
Truthfully, I could see Cromartie, after Ellison’s teachings on proper morality, and because Cromartie ‘needs’ to find the other intelligence looking for him, killing Weaver through some fluke, perhaps even aided by Cameron. However, since Weaver’s prime goal is to ensure Skynet survives, I could see her ‘moving on’, so to speak, while faking her death.
One of her prime projects was the precursor ACHK from a few episodes back, right? Well, if too much is found out about her, meaning her mission would be compromised, she would have to do the whole self-preservation bit and disappear, no? This would be the perfect opener for a third season, as well, where John and company find out Weaver’s not dead, and their entire mission is to seek and destroy, if possible.
(shrugs) I don’t know, anyone else have anything?
I think it should be noted that Weaver’s motives are not clear. Up until now it has seemed as if John Henry will become Skynet and that Weaver is ultimately trying to start Judgment Day, however after this last episode (having another AI, directly tied to Miles Dyson) this may not be the case. Weaver may not be the “villain” she has been hinted to be, at least in terms of Judgment Day and Skynet. It has already been stated in past episodes that not all of the machines are on the same side, even those not reprogrammed.
I’m not saying Weaver is good or bad, but I think it’s been hinted both ways and will be interested to see which way it actually goes.
Another thought is that in the “Jimmy Carter” episode, we saw a T-1001 that John had asked for assistance. Why would he just ask some random T-1001 model for help? Especially when it could lie, say yes, and then get close to John to kill him. (We know they can lie, if you’ve seen T2). Perhaps that particular machine did not have the same ideals as its brethren, as in it does not wish doom on mankind. This could imply that it is neutral or has its own agenda. That being said, would it really be that much of a stretch for that particular T-1001 to turn out to be Weaver?
Your last was actually my thought after your previous post… hadn’t thought about that. Anyway, I stick by my choices, even with the change in thought about Weaver being the T-1000 from the Jimmy Carter. Besides, even if you are right, what’s to say she doesn’t have a dual mission, and was using one to complete the other?
Ellison will be the male character to die in in the season finale. His story arc, like the recently departed Charlie, has run its course. After Cromartie died, all he has done is sit in a room and talk to John Henry.
As for what woman in John’s life leaves, that’s a much trickier question. As some one pointed out, can you really call it the Sarah Connor Chronicles if Sarah is dead? And really, its the relationship between John and Cameron that has made TSSC so popular. As the writers moved away from the John/Cameron dynamic this season, ratings have fallen.
If either Sarah or Cameron dies, its a sure bet that the decision not to bring the show back for a third season has already been made.
I believe Jessie will be the woman who betrays John. Dereck didn’t kill her. When he told John that, “John Connor said let her go,” it was an acknowledgment that he now considers present day John and future John to be one and the same.
If you recall the episode Good Bye to All That, in the future battle scene he refuses to leave a bunker to attack a Skynet convoy because Connor gave him an order to stay put. Dereck is a good soldier and obeys commands.
I think Jessie gave it away when she told Dereck Reese in part 1 of Today is the Day that,” I’m not here to stop the war sweetie, I’m here to win it.”
Why wouldn’t stopping the war be the same as winning it? Jessie, if still alive isn’t likely to go sit on the beach and wait for Judgement Day. I think she will betray John by exposing Cameron to Weaver.
But she doesn’t know Weaver, unless of course the T-1000 from the Jimmy Carter has changed its mind, the two met again and discussed the plans, or future Cameron brings Jessie into a TS meeting to discuss Skynet’s new and intercepted plan.
Besides, all Terminators, all generations, are programmed for their specific mission, but also to home out John and slay his Skynet-troubling ass.
Here’s the problem with Skynet’s plan to kill John, though… if Skynet succeeds, it all resets and there will be no John Connor to kill, therefore no reason to kill him, which means the paradox will hit all over again, John will be alive with Skynet trying to kill him.
If, however, Skynet uses paradox theory against the continuum, it can make things better for itself, which may grant explanation to John/Christian’s comment in the trailer, “This is not the future my mother warned me about” in T4. Skynet cannot kill Connor, but it can sure make his life miserable until the little microchipped/cyberspaced SOB comes into full existence, and then all bets are off.
The last episode was really intersting. The idea of two faction of robots fighting is nice. In this episode we see that is still Skynet that is “the evil”. John Henry is different…maybe “the good” the one with whom John possibly want to team in the future.
We always tought that Weaver wanted to find Cameron but I suppose that Weaver is not after Cameron but after Skynet itself.
We have also to think that when John Henry asked to Weaver: “will you kill him?” refering to Ellison she didn’t say anything.
Things are getting interesting….but unfortunatelly I don’t think Fox will ask for a new season…
i don’t think the spoiler refers to Charlie dying even though he did in the last episode. But the spoiler clearly says FINALE which means the final episode “Born to run”. So I really think that they kill off either Ellison or Derek. And I think Sarah leaves john and cameron betrays him (maybe the glitch of hers is back?)
This will become one hell of a finale. Cameron running around shooting anything in sight,one male character dying,the biggest action sequence of the entire series so far (as announced by Friedman himself) and The Connors vs. Weaver, a T-1001 no less. Could Cameron really stand a chance against her?
By the way did anybody notice that this jacket that Cameron wears on the promo pics of Adam raised a Cain looks almost exactly like the Jacket that the T-800 in the first Terminator was wearing when he assaulted the police station? I don’t know if that has been done on purpose but I love it. Now the only thing thats still missing is the sunglasses….
And when will Fox finally make up their minds about cancelling or renewing the show. This uncertainty is killing me!
Most unfortunately, I believe I must agree with my colleagues, that Fox will not renew the show, despite the fact on May 21st T4 debuts. I would love it, if indeed Fox decides to give it up, for Spike or G4 to get ahold of the series and continue it. I would have said Sci-Fi channel, but those guys are more into wrestling and really DUMB science fiction than they are in expressing true sci-fi, so Terminator would be out.
I like Ghost Hunters, Ghost Hunters International, and Sanctuary; I’ll watch Stargate and Atlantis, as those characters are, indeed, familiar, but they ran dry of decent plots and writing three or four years ago. Then, of course, they gave up on Andromeda and FarScape, and I don’t think B5 was EVER on their radar, so I imagine they wouldn’t give Terminator a very good treatment at all.
Since the idea of “time paradox” was brought up, I may as well come out and say it. John’s existence IS a time paradox! John’s father is from the future. If John and Sarah stop Skynet from being built, then there would be no Judgment Day, which would mean no war. Keep in mind that SKYNET built the time machine and sent the first terminator back, which Kyle Reese also used and then destroyed.
Basically, if there is no SKYNET, then there is no time machine. This means that Kyle Reese would never go back in time and there would be NO JOHN CONNOR! This is a little tidbit everyone seems to miss or not think about when watching the show.
Because of this, I think the idea of “time paradox” has been completely dismissed from the Terminator mythology.
Actually, I never missed it, rather savoring the irony of it. However, I like to deal with the most current issue at hand. The thing that kills me is this… Kyle Reese should never have been the original father because, just as Skynet MUST exist, so MUST John Connor. Now, any number of a hundred million bad things could happen to Kyle Reese during the war, especially as dangerous as he was to himself and others in T1. That kind of life-style often does not bode well for a long life.
I think the father of John Connor should have been someone from our time, back then, hehe.
as with most time travel thingys (or alot nowadays) when you go back in time and change something you are not changing the future you came from, but shaping the future for the time you are in.would that not remove the paradox.anyone watching lost with thier whole time relativity mumbo jumbo?
I believe that Ellison and Weaver will ultimately create the first half man half machine terminator that will aid John Connor in the future. As, John Henry had recognized Ellison in the first season as a future all-ly. As, in the future when the answer of the T-1000 told Jessie the answer to John Connor’s question was no. Jessie asked Cameron what the question was and she said, it was will you join us. So Jesse recruited Riley to come back to distract John, as Jessie wanted to turn John against Cameron. Remember Jesse told Derek, you don’t know what they’ve done to us. Camerom from the future has secrets, and remember John Henry said, they’re is another one like me who’s trying to kill me. Weaver wants Ellison to teach John Henry the value of human life, and weaver told John Henry that Savannas life depended on his survival. The new terminator who killed Derek could be the one trying to kill John Henry, why else would Weaver be trying to help stop skynet from going online. John connor isn’t yet aware of the t-1000’s being asked to work with the resistance, cameron hasn’t told him this yet! And Cameron will try to help save Sarah before the John Henry’s bad brother terminator gets to her.
As the terminator 4 movie comes out the S.C. Chronicles season finale had to move in the same direction as the movie.
The Sarah Connor chronicles is what helped to fuel more interest for a Terminator four movie to begin with,because it has became such a popular series.
Well, then, hopefully there will be a third season of SCC.